The Yale Mystery

I know I’ve said this before and I’m going to say it again.  I don’t know how I manage to come across so many pieces of silverplate with backstamps of unknown, or relatively unknown, manufacturers.  I had two silverplate bar spoons that were marked “Yale Silver Co. A1”.  After considerable research, I listed them for sale in my Etsy shop and included this in the description:

“The Yale Silver Co. mark is rare. From my limited research I am speculating that the Yale Silver Company is a brand of or made by Simpson, Hall, Miller & Company. Early in the 19th Century Hiram Yale had a business that Samuel Simpson apprenticed at for 15 years. Charles D. Yale was part owner and treasurer of Simpson Hall Miller & Co. His sons are listed in Berly’s Universal Electrical Directory of 1884, C. B. and G. S. Yale are listed as electroplaters at 36 E. 14th Street, New York. G. Selden Yale and his brother Charles B. Yale took position with Simpson Hall Miller in 1869 and remained employed there for 16 years. Selden was the manager of Simpson Hall Miller’s New York Office which just happened to be 36 E. 14th Street. Another coincidental tidbit of information is that both Simpson Hall Miller and Yale used a circular mark and the term quadruple plate on their holloware.”

Then I came across another piece of flatware with the same “Yale Silver Co.” mark.  It also had a twist handle but was long, very long…12 inches long to be exact.  It had what looked like a pierced ladle at the end.  What was it used for?  Perhaps it was an olive ladle (is there such a thing?).  In any case, this is what I said when I included it in the bar spoon listing:

“The olive ladle is 12 inches long and is in the “Sultana” or “Shell” pattern. I am not certain if this is actually an olive ladle….strainer…spoon…or what. It is an unusual shape, that’s for sure. I could find nothing similar in Noel Turner’s “American Silver Flatware”. I could see it being used in a large, deep olive jar to scoop out olives and drain the brine at the same time. Note that this ladle is double stamped with the Yale mark.”

Yale Silver Co. Twist Handle Bar Spoons and Olive Ladle

Yale Silver Co. Twist Handle Bar Spoons and Olive Ladle

These bar spoons and olive ladle can be found here at my Etsy shop:

I thought that my Yale Silver Co. connection was just those twist handle items and no further research was necessary.  I surmised that Simpson, Hall, Miller made these barware related items for the Yales or used this name as a limited brand of their own.  

I came across another Yale mark on a demitasse spoon listed for sale; the pattern is the first one on the left in the photo below.  There was no information regarding the mark in the listing.  It was an interesting to learn that another “Yale” item existed but it was not my demitasse spoon and I was not about to begin to start researching it.

And then I came across the ‘child’s head’ flatware shown  below (last three items with each being a tiny bit different in detail).  These are part of a child’s set.  No barware connection here.  Now I knew I would have to spend a little more time researching the Yale Silver Co.

Yale Patterns

Yale Patterns

The child’s set came in a box that has a label on the end as follows:

Yale Silver Co. "Cupid" Pattern Label

Yale Silver Co. “Cupid” Pattern Label

Simpson, Hall, Miller had a “Cupid” pattern and this Yale pattern is not the same.  So, if “Yale Silver” was a brand name of Simpson, Hall, Miller, it was highly unlikely that they would have had two separate “Cupid” patterns.  What confused me even further, was that the box indicates that the set was “plated on nickel silver”.  The spoon and fork had considerable wear and plate loss and the base metal is a golden color, an indication that the base metal was more brass like.  Was this flatware actually original to this box?  This child’s set and box are listed for sale here at my Etsy shop:

I also have a fork in this “Cupid” pattern which is in very good condition:

The Yale family has a long and prestigious history in the State of Connecticut.  You have heard of Yale University, haven’t you?  But we’re searching the family that was involved in Britannia and tin ware.  Samuel Yale was making pewter buttons in the late 1700s.  His sons, Charles and Hiram, were manufacturing pewter and Britannia ware in the early 1800s.  They purchased water-power known as Tyler’s Mills, erected a new and substantial dam across the stream and added buildings.  This area of Wallingford, Connecticut became known as Yalesville.

Charles Yale had a son, Charles D. Yale who became treasurer of Simpson, Hall, Miller.  The following article from “The History of New Haven County” provides an overview of Charles D. Yale’s life and accomplishments:

History of New Haven County, Conn, Vol1 pg452

History of New Haven County, Conn. Vol1 pg452


History of New Haven County, Conn. Vol1 pg452a

History of New Haven County, Conn. Vol1 pg452a


History of New Haven County, Conn., Vol1 pg453

History of New Haven County, Conn., Vol1 pg453


History of New Haven County, Conn., Vol1 pg454

History of New Haven County, Conn., Vol1 pg454

Charles D. died in 1890.  It is possible that he formed the Yale Silver Co., as I estimate my collection of flatware to have been manufactured somewhere around 1885.  Yet, if he did form this company, there is no mention of it in the article above, or for that matter any other that I could find.  Perhaps it was his sons, Charles Benjamin and George Selden, who were involved somehow with the Yale Silver Co. 

The following is an article about Charles Benjamin Yale (again, no mention of Yale Silver Co.):

Article on Charles Benjamin Yale

Article on Charles Benjamin Yale

Charles B. was named as a co-inventor in an 1884 patent for “Table Caster or Other Articles of Table Service” assigned to Simpson, Hall, Miller & Co.:

Hull & Yale Patent No. 296287

G. W. Hull & C. B. Yale Patent No. 296287

The following is G. Selden’s obituary (the newspaper had his name wrong, calling him Selden G. instead of G. Selden).  But, again, no mention of Yale Silver Co.

Obituary of G. Selden Yale, from Jeweler's Circular

Obituary of G. Selden Yale, from Jeweler’s Circular

During the second half of the 19th Century, the Yales (Charles D., Charles B. and G. Selden) were listed in various directories (predominantly Trowe’s) with various addresses in New York City.  I’ve compiled a chronological listing of those addresses below. 

Chronological Listing of Addresses of the Yales in New York City

Chronological Listing of Addresses of the Yales in New York City

In some of these directory listings, the Yale’s are shown as affiliated with Simpson, Hall, Miller.  In other of the listings they simply show “silverware” after their name. Please note in the 1881 listing there seems to be an indication that they have finally settled on a business name. “C. B. & G. S. Yale” (also repeated in the1884″Berly’s) Before this it seems there is the suggestion of others. (see 1878 Yale, Bradford & Brother in the above listing). On the important site  it states that the sons “neglected the business (meaning Simpson, Hall, Miller) in favor of establishing their own jewelry company.”  Maybe the sons had some flatware manufactured with the “Yale Silver Co.” mark to sell in their jewelry business?

But maybe it goes back to their father, Charles D., who was close friends and business partner with Samuel Simpson.  Maybe Samuel Simpson had some pieces made with the Yale backstamp for his friend.  A celebration of Mr. Simpson’s 50th year in business was held in 1885.  Maybe Mr. Simpson presented these pieces to Charles D. at that time as a tribute to their friendship.

New England Families, Genealogical and Memorial

New England Families, Genealogical and Memorial

Another guess is that upon C.B.& G.S. Yales’ retirement from Simpson Hall Miller & Co. in 1886 some special arrangement was made with the company to have flatware stamped with the Yale Silver Co. mark.

In March of 1901 the Yale brothers went back to Richmond, Virginia and The Times of Richmond stated in an article that these gentlemen are “now interested in silverware manufacturing in New York…”

In December of 1901 The Times of Richmond ran an article about a lawsuit involving the Yale brothers and John Bowers, who had been a business partner of their father many years earlier.  The suit involved the closing of an alley in Richmond.  It appears C.B. and G.S had some business venture going with John Bowers but what sort of venture remains unknown.

In 1914 the American Machinist publication notes that the Yale brothers are receiving estimates for construction of a garage on State Street in New Haven, Connecticut.

Additional Notes 

And then again maybe the Yale Silver Co. has nothing whatsoever to do with Charles D., Charles B. or G. Selden Yale.  The bottom line is, I have no clue as to the real truth behind the Yale Silver Co.  If anyone reading this has information, I’d be delighted to hear from you!

And for those of you who think that I exaggerate when I say that I frequently come across silverplate with “mystery marks”, here’s another example:

Sterling Silver Plate Co. Mystery Pattern

Sterling Silver Plate Co. Mystery Pattern

These gorgeous forks are marked “Sterling Sil. Plt. Co.”  They are for sale in my Etsy shop and following is part of my listing description: 

“The pattern name is unknown to me. It is a marvelous example of aesthetic design with floral elements and butterfly.

“And the manufacturer is also unknown to me. Davis and Deibel, in their book “Silver Plated Flatware Patterns”, include this manufacturer and comment “Research failed to develop any information concerning this trade-mark.” They simply identify this pattern as “Sterling Silver Plate Four”. The Brooklyn Museum’s website indicates that Stering Silver Plate Co. was a mark of Holmes, Booth & Haydens. This could well be as this pattern does have some similarity to the different designs patented by Hiram Hayden. The butterfly in this design is somewhat similar to Hiram Hayden’s “Japanese”.”
They can be found here:

 A yet another unsolved mystery.

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8 Responses to The Yale Mystery

  1. KerryCan says:

    Such an interesting read! And I imagine that you’re always on the lookout for new pieces to this sort of puzzle–maybe someday everything will come together! I love the first design, with the twisted handles–that twist makes the understated design really interesting. And the other detail that struck me was the bit in the newspaper about G. Selden’s death–it was hot and he was very heavy! Yikes–a little respect for the dead, please!

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  3. Jerry Schott says:

    Came across a small silver/silver plate teapot tiday( wife is a teapot collector).
    Marked Yale of Yalesville Conn
    “The Best Anywhere”
    “First Quality Only”
    … HECI
    Will send you pic cues if you give me your email please.

  4. Mark says:

    Thank you for your time and knowledge on Yale silver co. I am sure your time to come up with your sources was spent pulling your hair out. How aggravating that it came down to not really finding much about who really owned that stamp. I myself have come across a teapot with the stamp. Not finding any info but yours so thanks for all ypur hard work

  5. Julie Scholes says:

    I am going through some estate items of my great great aunt. I have a silver creamer and sugar bowl with the stamp Yale Silver Co. Wallingford CT, quadruple plate and a number stamp 402. My great aunt was born in 1906 and I believe these belonged to her husbands Aunt Grace. I am guessing they were manufactured around 1900 or earlier. They are beautiful and in great condition. I appreciate the information you were able to find around the history of Yale Silver.

    • Jynette says:

      I was looking for information on what looks like a sugar spoon I have from Yale Silver Co. The pattern looks like “the pattern is the first one on the left in the photo below” you have pictured, but with a very decorative shell pattern on the head. As you stated there is almost no information on this item and style, but I wanted to take a min to thank you for all you hard work into researching and posting what information you have found about Yale Silver Co. Thank you!

  6. Da says:

    Today I found a spoon of that exact pattern while metal detecting an 1850’s homestead! I ran into your post while trying to research the company. Of course, the spoon is flattened, and most of the silver has since leached off, but the pattern is clearly visible.

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